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 Post subject: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:30 pm 

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Now the external side of the build is almost complete I've been truning my attention to the inside of my lid.

What have people got inside their lids for comfort? I'm putting a couple of fans in but am not convicned the right position so would welcome any pics of others interiors and what you done.

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:11 am 
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Yes, I would be interested to hear about padding and colling techniques as well.



FYI, my South American helmet came with some padding, that the dealers sell separately on eBay for about $30 (might also be available in Don Post size). I don't think I will be using it (but I will be keeping it), it serves its purpose. It consists of a helmet shaped "executioner's hood", and a small "beret-shaped" pad that velcroes to the top of the hood. This does make the SA helmet sit nicely on your head. However, I find that the hood is hot and constricts your air flow. I have a gap in my visor so I don't have fogging issues to speak of (I know some people like to bear balaclavas to reduce fogging and moisutre issues). However, I do think I might add some velcro to the top of my helmet so I can use the "beret-shaped" padding.

I would like to add a couple fans at some point, maybe some padding at the shoulders or elsewhere to keep it sitting right and comfortably. I might also want to add earpieces so I can hear outside the helmet, not sure if I want myself on a mic. I don't have robes yet, so I'll have to wait until those are done to worry about other padding issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:16 am 

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I still have yet to figure where to put a fan in the helmet. I have been tinkering around with the idea of building some sort of fan box and running a hose up into the helmet to circulate air that way.

Of course I also tinkered with the idea of having something like a snorkel setup, so the when I am breathing the air - have a tube go down the helmet and under the robe, where nobody will see it.

Lucious pointed out that I wouldn't be able to talk... but then again, aren't guards supposed to be the strong silent types?

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:43 am 
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I still have yet to figure where to put a fan in the helmet. I have been tinkering around with the idea of building some sort of fan box and running a hose up into the helmet to circulate air that way.

Of course I also tinkered with the idea of having something like a snorkel setup, so the when I am breathing the air - have a tube go down the helmet and under the robe, where nobody will see it.

Lucious pointed out that I wouldn't be able to talk... but then again, aren't guards supposed to be the strong silent types?

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Unfortunately there ain't a lot of room to work with in there. I have a resin helmet that's a hand sculpt and very small. Luckily I have a small head, but still, if I attempt to put in a fan, I'd have even less room.

What I did to combat the air flow issue is use a clone-cut visor that gives me vents at the bottom of the helmet visor line with some sneaky application of hot glue. Sabertech (Erik) put a flat visor in for me earlier this year and it was horrible for my visibility in the Boston St. Pat's Parade, which is 4 miles of hell as it is, so we put the clone visor back in.

I'll be happy to take pics if anyone would like to see it.

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:37 am 

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One of our old members who came back from a long hiatus (something like 3 years) wears a black see-though head sock. There was never a lens that was put in and, unless you were really looking up close, you wouldn't even notice it.

Not entirely accurate, but that certainly is on way to keep from fogging up with condensation....

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:29 pm 
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What about installing a liner like those found in construction helmets? Has anyone done that? I used one for my Navy Trooper helmet and it worked really well, but I haven't tried it on my RG yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:09 am 
tavrikgannon wrote:
One of our old members who came back from a long hiatus (something like 3 years) wears a black see-though head sock. There was never a lens that was put in and, unless you were really looking up close, you wouldn't even notice it.

Not entirely accurate, but that certainly is on way to keep from fogging up with condensation....

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Wonderful idea. I've adapted it for a couple of shots and will be trying it out for a noncanon event to gauge actual heat distribution and sound situation. Basically, using a nomex balaclava worn backwards.


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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:26 pm 
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Something like the balaclava would be ok for a non-canon even, unless your CO or GML says otherwise, but unless you want to skip out on the official events you will have to have a visor in your bucket.
The hardhat liner probably won't fit either. Even if you clamped it down to the smallest size it's most likey going to be too big to go inside the helmet. Plus at that point it will be too small to fit on most heads anyway :P.
Lots of people have mentioned making a fan box for under their robes and "piping" the air up into the helmet with tubing. I'd like to see some pics of this too if anyone has some :D.

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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:37 am 

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That's what I did. I took one of those portable battery powered air pumps (for inflatable camping mattresses) and piped the air up to my neck. I put the pump on the back of my belt and ran it up my back to the helmet where it velcro'd in place.

The pump is kind of heavy, but it kept me from fogging up. The only downside is that it's loud. So not good for indoor events, but great for parades.


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 Post subject: Re: Non DP helmet interior
PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:39 pm 
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I just use a Under Armour skull cap. Nothing else.

For fans, I got one velcroed directly below my mouth and it blows air up. Drys the eyes a bit (especially with contacts), but it circulates very well. I have a DP, so there isn't much room, so I have to remove the fan when putting the helmet on and off, but I have enough slack in the wires to keep the battery and switch velcroed in place.

I like the idea of the larger pump pushing cooler air up into the helmet, but concealing the hose would be the issue. Noise and weight, too.

But any type of fan works wonders!

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